2025: YEAR OF GRACE & TRIAL

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Mark Mallett
00:06 – 00:33
In recent days, a number of messages from Our Lady and Our Lord were released to the public that were given just earlier last year and at the beginning of this year. They spoke of this year coming up that we are living in right now in 2025 as a year of exceptional grace, trial and even chaos. Well, as we’ve watched in the headlines, those messages are already coming true before our eyes.

Daniel O’Connor
00:33 – 00:35
Silence.

Mark Mallett
00:34 – 00:38
We’re going to talk more about that and many other things next on Countdown to the Kingdom.

Daniel O’Connor
00:39 – 00:41
Perfect.

Mark Mallett
00:52 – 01:15
Hello everyone, it’s been a while. I’m Mark Mallett from Countdown to the Kingdom and thenowerd.com. And you know, I did say some time ago that I wanted to have regular webcasts with my colleague Daniel O’Connor, but Daniel got busy with college and having children and renovating his studio, but that studio is now finally done.

Daniel O’Connor
01:15 – 01:17
We’re back.

Mark Mallett
01:16 – 01:22
And so he’s back from Albany, New York in a brand new palatial studios.

Daniel O’Connor
01:17 – 01:17
(laughing)

Mark Mallett
01:22 – 01:25
“Hey, it looks pretty good over there. That looks super.”

Daniel O’Connor
01:26 – 01:32
– Palatial indeed. Yeah, just don’t look too close at the backdrop ’cause I’m not fully done renovating the room.

Mark Mallett
01:29 – 01:30
(laughs) [Laughter]

Daniel O’Connor
01:32 – 02:04
But yeah, we at every intent several months ago, dive into, okay, we’re gonna do webcasts way more regularly ’cause this is needed and I believe it is. But then the opposite happened ’cause I decided renovations are in order so that we can be ready for these. And as tend to happen with renovations, I think they’ll take me a week and they take me several months. I’ll put, you know, how about I put on my screen the room you’re looking at right now, my backdrop. This is what it looked like just a couple months ago.

Mark Mallett
02:04 – 02:07
Oh wow, okay.

Daniel O’Connor
02:04 – 02:20
(laughs) So that’s the room, that’s the room that you’re looking at right now a couple of months ago. I decided I’m gonna just rip it all apart. I feel like that’s prophetic ’cause we’re back at the same room that I started our webcasts in five years ago. I’m finally back in it.

Mark Mallett
02:20 – 02:50
Maybe this is the the chaos our lady was speaking of is right there in your your room Yeah That looks precarious

Daniel O’Connor
02:23 – 03:25
Yeah, this is really like a microcosm of prophecy. This corner of my basement that is all I have recorded. So I ripped it all apart thinking, okay, I’m gonna build this much more soundproof room. And that turned out to be approximately 10 times more work than I expected as with all the jobs I take on. But so that two months ago, okay, so here’s one month ago. And I finally got it all ripped out. And that’s a little bit precarious. This is actually not how you’re supposed to do it. If you need to put plywood, this is actually OSB. But if you need to build new ceilings, please don’t just use a random two by four to prop it up in a ladder. I had my boys, I had my two older boys come down and they’re too young to lift up plywood, but I had them, well, I was, so this is not just OSB. This is OSB with 50 pounds of mass loaded vinyl on top of it to try to give me a little soundproofing so you guys don’t have to listen to a two year old screaming while Mark and I are recording.

Mark Mallett
03:20 – 03:26
(chewing) (laughing)

Daniel O’Connor
03:27 – 03:49
So I’m like, I’m trying to lift up 100 pounds atop me and then I told my boys, quick, quick, move the ladder, move the ladder to hold it up underneath me. And somehow by some miracle, I got it all done thanks to the intercession of my guardian angel, St. Joseph, who I’m constantly asking for intercession of, and my boys, my eight-year-old and 10-year-old helping me out.

Mark Mallett
03:40 – 04:16
Yes, and, and, It’s nice to know that you didn’t flatten them. That’s probably the good news that comes out of all of that. But yeah, the other thing though is that is, I’m, you know, a little bit of schadenfreude going on here with me, but 10 degrees up here in northern Canada, very warm, it’s a meltdown, tomorrow’s supposed to be 16 degrees Celsius and what’s this, it’s snowing in New York tonight?

Daniel O’Connor
03:54 – 04:17
We did not get flattened. We did not get flattened by a miracle. (laughs) (sighs) It’s snowing today in New York.

Mark Mallett
04:16 – 04:16
Is that what?

Daniel O’Connor
04:18 – 04:38
It’s supposed to be like 50 degrees in April here. And I go into work today, I’m teaching on campus. Like nobody’s showing up ’cause it’s like, I guess no one wants to come, no one wants to go drive to school when it’s snowing out in April. And you, you’re supposed to be in Eskimo, right? But it’s like nice spring weather there up in the North Pole.

Mark Mallett
04:36 – 04:36
Yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
04:39 – 04:40
You live in the North Pole, right?

Mark Mallett
04:39 – 04:43
Yeah. We, we’re going to have to do a little bit of a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, We got lakes up here in the North Pole of Canada.

Daniel O’Connor
04:41 – 04:42
Is it? Yeah.

Mark Mallett
04:44 – 04:48
In the 51st state here, it’s remarkably warm this week.

Daniel O’Connor
04:48 – 04:53
Yeah, that’s ’cause so, we’re taking you guys over this year, right?

Mark Mallett
04:48 – 04:50
We’re enjoying it.

Daniel O’Connor
04:53 – 04:55
Is that, did I hear that right?

Mark Mallett
04:54 – 04:55
I think it’s this year.

Daniel O’Connor
04:55 – 04:56
I think, yeah.

Mark Mallett
04:56 – 05:05
I think it’s this year. It depends who’s in the queue. I’m not sure if it’s Greenland in the queue or us first, but it’s one of us to join.

Daniel O’Connor
05:04 – 05:04
(laughs)

Mark Mallett
05:06 – 05:31
But the problem is, The one issue is that you Americans, when as soon as it snows over there, you get a little skiff of snow, the world shuts down, it sounds like you’re telling me. But you know, here, you know, we get three feet of snow, minus 35, and people say, “How do you do it?” I always tell them, I say, “We wear clothes outside.” We put on parkas and gloves, you know? Did you think we went outside half naked?

Daniel O’Connor
05:29 – 05:34
[LAUGH] That’s a good point. You see, that’s why God sends us winters.

Mark Mallett
05:33 – 05:33
Yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
05:34 – 12:00
It’s the only time that people in 2025 know to be actually modest and like cover their body with clothing Yes, but many more saints many more saints I’m going to I’m going to The next day when when you were reading that message from our lady and the repetition of the word when it just really stuck with me and and Because I think that’s actually the same thing That a lot of the faithful are crying out right now and a lot of the remnant fit when oh lord when?

Mark Mallett
05:41 – 11:45
That’s why Canadians are far more virtuous than our southern friends. I’m just kidding. Many more saints. Yeah, because we’re doing our purgatory on earth, believe me. We’re all so tired of winter up here. This sunshine is great. So no sympathy from me, Daniel. But hey, let’s get back to, I mean, something is definitely, and I know some people are going to say, “You guys say this all the time.” But you know, people don’t understand who say that. They expect everything to happen this week, or this month, or this year. But if you look at the big picture of what’s been happening in the world, even if you went back just to Fatima, although I think we could go right back to the beginning of the Enlightenment But if you go back to Fadiman, you look at World War I, World War II, you look at the genocides, you look at the reordering of the United Nations and everything that’s happened, the introduction of abortion, now euthanasia, you look at just the disruption that’s happened and now a generation that doesn’t even know if it’s a man or a woman. Everything is upside down. It’s exactly what Pope John Paul II said, Daniel. He referred to Ezekiel. He said, “People will come to call good evil and evil good.” And this is where we’re at. We’re at a place of chaos. And you know, the other night, I want to share with you a little bit what happened. We had a beautiful evening of adoration in St. Edward, Alberta. This is in Alberta, Canada. I was there with my ministry music team, our bishop was there, Bishop Gary, and three other priests hearing confessions. Beautiful, powerful night. We were leading people in praise and worship music. The confession lines went on for like an hour, hour and a half. But before this gathering, I took my music team and we went to a private chapel there and we just prayed before the Blessed Sacrament and just prepared ourselves to minister. And while we were praying there, suddenly the Lord spoke in my heart. And I heard kind of an almost, not only the words, but like this impression that the world is at a tipping point, is just about to tip over. And immediately after that, I sensed our mother say, “But do not be afraid.” And when I went home that night, I opened my email box and there was this email sitting there from our translator Peter Bannister in France. And he had sent me these new messages from Angela, from Our Lady of Zaro, that are on the website of the Zaro Diocese, according to Peter. And I read these words, my eyes fell on them, from February 26, 2025. Our Lady saying, “Children, the hour of trial is near, but do not be afraid.” And I just, my jaw dropped open because just an hour and a half before, or two hours before, I sensed Our Lady and Our Lord saying, “The world’s at a tipping point, but do not be afraid.” And there’s a reason why they’re saying this. And it’s also from these new messages that have just been released that were not available to the public, but they’ve just come out on the diocesan website, including this from Simona, who’s also been hearing from Our Lady, allegedly, in Zaro. And Our Lady says this, and you can see from that photo, she’s saying, “When will you understand children?” She says, “When?” And in this really moving message, she says, “Children, when will you understand that without God you are nothing? When will you stop putting your ego in place of God? My children, my heart is torn. Why all this evil? Why so much hatred? And I know you’re seeing it in your country. Between the left and the right, I’m seeing it in my country now. She says, “When will you stop being whitewashed sepulchers and wash your souls in the blood of the Lamb? When will you stop doing evil and start behaving like true brothers and sisters, children of one Father who only wants your good. When will you understand, children, when? That was Simona, November 26, 2024, but listen to this to Salima Gomez, who lives in Quebec, Canada at the time. She’s originally from El Salvador. And again, listen to what Our Lady said on January 25th of this year. “Pray, my children, for darkness envelops the earth. days are coming upon humanity. I’ve asked you to change, to convert, to take our words seriously, to pray, and you have not listened to my voice.” That’s a direct echo of what was said to Simona. When, children, will you listen? When will you understand? And this is why, and we’re going to share some more with you of what they’re saying, that Our Lady is pointing to this year now. And these times, this year being now, it seems to be the year when many of these prophecies that have been told are now going to really start coming out in space. And as Our Lady says, and we’ll get to it in a moment, one thing after another is going to start happening. Well, again, these are messages that we didn’t have access to until just the last few days. Boy, when we look at the world scene right now, Daniel, you can maybe talk about it. We can see there is chaos, there is disruption happening. The entire world order seems to have been shaken, especially by these tariffs that have been put out by President Donald Trump. (dog whining)

Daniel O’Connor
12:01 – 12:03
How long Lord how long?

Mark Mallett
12:01 – 12:01
Yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
12:03 – 12:28
we see the world falling deeper and deeper into the most horrendous abysses of sin and ever and we think it can’t get any worse and it does get worse and We say how long Oh Lord and Our Lady saying the same thing when when when but she’s saying it in relation to us We say when is God gonna stop this and Our Lady saying when are we?

Mark Mallett
12:09 – 12:28
(phone ringing) (chuckles)

Daniel O’Connor
12:29 – 13:54
When are people gonna wake up and start listening? the call is very simple to repent and convert and pray and come back to Jesus and And this year of trial and grace, that’s what we’re named this webcast after because there’s so many signs of both happening. There is an incredible movement of the Holy Spirit going on right now. This incredible wave of conversion I’ve seen even, but also at the same time, the opposite happening in others. And the moral of the story there is we see the sides separating out. And this, how long Lord, this when, when, when, it seems to be coming to a climax in this year in front of us. And we’re seeing that not based on our own prognostications, we don’t know the future, but we’re just looking at the message of Our Lady, but not just the messages from Our Lady, but also the signs that I believe the Holy Spirit is giving us through what the church is saying with this holy year, which we’ll get to shortly. But yes, when we look at even the news, We see things happening right now that even if you’ve got no interest in prophecy, even if you think this is all just, you know, a bunch of wild-eyed end times conspiracy theorists, you know, whatever your skepticism is, turn on the news right now and you’re going to see something like this.

Mark Mallett
13:32 – 13:33
(faint talking)

Daniel O’Connor
13:54 – 14:06
You’re going to see the biggest wipeout of stock market value in many years thanks to one simple decision based on — made by, you know, the President of the United States of America.

Mark Mallett
14:04 – 14:06
[ Inaudible ]

Daniel O’Connor
14:06 – 14:46
And I’m — I, you know, I’m an American. I’m not here to criticize or praise tariffs. I have no strong opinion on this. I’m not an economist. And I really don’t know what the right decision is on these details. But when we look at the effects of them, that’s what we can discern. That’s what we can look at through the eyes of faith. And we can look at the signs that this seems to forebode and we can look at what’s happened in the past with this economic turmoil. Well, look at what led America into World War II. Look at these, you know, just look at the oil, the cutting off Japan, for example, from its oil sources.

Mark Mallett
14:38 – 14:39
Mm-hmm.

Daniel O’Connor
14:46 – 14:50
And then suddenly Japan has this surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

Mark Mallett
14:50 – 14:51
Pearl Harbor yeah

Daniel O’Connor
14:50 – 15:59
And then overnight, the world collapsed. You know, overnight we’ve got America in the Second World War and the biggest single event I think that’s going to precipitate these great trials that are coming is when the Third World War officially starts. And it’s been fought in piecemeal for a long time now. Mark and I have been warning that, about that, you know, since our original webcasts five years ago, that this is coming. But we see now the signs of it exploding onto the scene. These 104% terrorists on the second biggest economic force in the world, China. Whenever I see these signs of the times seeming to indicate that something’s going on with China and the West, I think of the book of Revelation and the army of twice 10,000 times 10,000. And what’s that? Well, that’s 200 million. And think about an army of 200 million people. The times when the book of Revelation was written, that wasn’t even conceivable to an army of 200 million people.

Mark Mallett
15:58 – 16:00
(dog whining)

Daniel O’Connor
15:59 – 16:27
But now suddenly it is conceivable with respect to the East. And with what’s going on in the news today, like literally today, if you go to any mainstream news source, you’re going to see rumblings of this enormous tension between East and West, especially America and China. And it seems that this is– I shouldn’t say inching, that this is hurtling us towards the outbreak of the Third World War.

Mark Mallett
16:28 – 19:25
Well, I’m going to go to a message here from Salima again that we just, I think I just published them this morning. And you just raised the whole question about tariffs. And on February 1st, 2025, this was the message given to her. And now this is from Mary. from Our Lady Queen of Peace. She said, “Do not be discouraged when looking at all that is happening in the world at this time. We told you about it well in advance, but you did not take our words seriously. You will see how events will unfold one after the other. You are about to experience the greatest chaos on earth. Economies will collapse rapidly. You will witness major revolts and terrorist attacks of all kinds. Nature has reserved some very great surprises for you, as all the elements have been unleashed. Now you know this reminds me of her saying, when she says here, you’ll see how events will unfold one after the other. Does that not remind you of the message that was given to Jennifer? This is a message that was given to Jennifer back in 2005 when Jesus said to her, “Now again, these messages, we’ve been discerning them for some time.” She handed them to John Paul II. Two weeks later, one of his representatives from Poland, who was from the Vatican, came to her and gave the messages back and said, “Jennifer, spread them to the world.” That was the message from the Vatican after they saw her messages. And Jesus said to her on April 4, 2005, “These events will come like boxcars on the tracks, and will ripple across this world. The seas are no longer calm, and the mountains will awaken, and the division will multiply.” You can find this at our website, that’s at CountdownToTheKingdom.com, just type in “like boxcars” and you can read it. But we’re seeing all of these things right now. As I speak, there’s a major volcano popping off in Etna, Italy. There’s another one in the Philippines. There’s other volcanoes now, serious volcanoes, major ones beginning to stir. Another one in Alaska. We’re seeing economies now all over the world beginning to wobble. Even America’s economy right now is in question. We don’t want to get into the politics because it’s too wearisome, it’s too divisive. But we can speak from it and just saying, listening to the various voices, many are saying this could have the effect of Europe and China and other countries and regions forming their own trade and kind of leaving America out of it.

Daniel O’Connor
19:25 – 19:46
I’m going to Right.

Mark Mallett
19:26 – 22:44
I think it was Peter Schiff who said in a webcast recently, he said, you know, Trump’s attempt to want to bring manufacturing and so on back to America, fine, he said, but those factories don’t exist right now. They have to be built up. They have to install the technologies, they have to get them up and running before you can build a new set of running shoes made in America. So this isn’t going to happen overnight. So anyway, the point is, we are seeing right now in the headlines hour by hour, these things beginning to unfold that Our Lady is referring to. And She says, however, “Do not be afraid. You have opened your hearts to welcome the sweetest guest of your soul.” speaking to you who are listening to her. The Lord has made His home in each of you, and you have entered your only refuge, the sacred heart of Jesus in my immaculate heart.” So once again, you read this and you can feel disturbed, but heaven is saying, “Look, we’ve got your backs.” But there’s no question right now, we are entering into what, this is again going back to Angela, this is February 26th of this year. Our Lady said, “Children, the hour of trial is near, but do not be afraid, do not fear. I am always with you. Fight with the weapon of the Holy Rosary and with the sacraments, because the trials that you will have to face will be great. But not all of you are ready. I’m here to show you the path to follow. I’m here by God’s immense mercy. Children, my beloved church will go through the great tribulation. I mean, this is not pulling any punches in this message. This is, if this is from heaven, understand what Our Lady is saying. We are about to go through a time that Jesus has described in the scripture that is known as the great tribulation. He said that nations will rise up against nations, there will be wars and rumors of wars. He spoke of earthquakes and famines and plagues from place to place. And I’m convinced personally that when Jesus spoke of these things, he was speaking about things that man was creating. Man-made famines, man-made plagues, wars that man is generating. And we know, as I think, I’m trying to remember what the journalist said recently. She says, “Most of these wars are banksters’ wars, Daniel. “The wars created by banksters who profit from these wars. “We’re living in a time “of some of the most extraordinary evil.” As we’ve heard Our Lady say to Pedro Regis time and again on Countdown to the Kingdom, he says, “A Brazilian seer.” Our Lady’s saying, “You’re living in times,” she says, “worse than the flood.” And so are we surprised now that we are living, that this year could possibly be the year. And Daniel, I guess we need to have a word maybe at this point about specific prophecies. This isn’t giving us like an exact date, but this is pretty specific, isn’t it? This is saying 2025, yeah, this year.

Daniel O’Connor
22:41 – 23:17
>> This year, yeah. This year is an extraordinary year of grace and trial, yeah. So if this year doesn’t wind up being, you know, we have to be extremely blunt. I mean, we have to be extremely honest, frank, and open in assessing whether what we’re talking about right now winds up being what happens. And if 2025 comes and goes, if this holy year, this jubilee, as we’ll get back to shortly, if that comes and goes without anything fundamentally different from previous years, and we have to revisit whether that was really a prophecy from heaven or not.

Mark Mallett
23:10 – 23:33
I’m not sure if Yeah, we do.

Daniel O’Connor
23:17 – 23:31
And that’s what we will do in the future with this. But if that’s what we’re going to do in the future with this, then we have to do the same thing with what’s been said in the past about what has already happened. Don’t we, Mark?

Mark Mallett
23:36 – 23:57
This is one of the things that we’ve been challenged with on Countdown to the Kingdom. It has been, you know, when I looked at this project, I actually, and I’ve told the listeners this before, but when I was invited to be part of Count on the Kingdom, I said, “No! No, absolutely not!” You do.

Daniel O’Connor
23:54 – 23:56
I remember that very well.

Mark Mallett
23:57 – 24:42
You do. That was March 25, 2020. So that was just over five years ago, so we’re in our fifth year anniversary. As you mentioned in the last webcast, we had no idea when we launched that webcast, the churches closed their doors, something we’d never really seen in the history of the world, the history of the church rather, where churches across the world, many of them closed their doors. It was one of the chief signs of the times that the church, what’s going to happen to the church in persecution in times of trouble. If that wasn’t a hard binger of, or hard binger, however you want to pronounce it, of the great apostasy I don’t know what would be but it was a serious shot over the bowel

Daniel O’Connor
24:40 – 25:09
Yeah, I mean that was so clearly the foretaste of the reign of the Antichrist. We’ve always known that the Antichrist above all wants to cause the cessation of the sacrifice of the Mass. You know, back from the Old Testament to the book of Daniel, we know this abomination of desolation will do away with the sacrifice. And what do we see in COVID for the first time ever? Never before in church history has the universal church suspended the public sacrifice of the mass.

Mark Mallett
25:08 – 25:11
(dog whining)

Daniel O’Connor
25:09 – 25:33
And if you think that we can just go back to normal after that, without some radical church-wide repentance, you’re delusional. The mass, you know, as Padre Pio said, The world could go on without the sun more easily than without the mass. That was apocalyptic. And I believe that was the beginning of these end time events that we’re still in the midst of.

Mark Mallett
25:28 – 25:28
No.

Daniel O’Connor
25:33 – 25:39
In fact, I think we’re in the middle of now, but yeah, handing it back to you on that Mark. I just had to throw that in there.

Mark Mallett
25:39 – 27:44
Well, yeah, I just think right now we’re living in this time of such turmoil and there’s a lot of prophets. Our Lady is allegedly and our Lord appearing all over the world to many, many people. And this shouldn’t surprise us. It says in Acts chapter 2, I don’t know if I have my Bible, yeah I do have it right here. I don’t know if I can turn to it quick enough. But it says in the beginning of Acts that in those last days, and this is the first speech from Peter after Pentecost. He says, “In the last days it shall be God declares that I will pour up my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy. And your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Yes, on my men servants and my maid servants in those days I will pour up my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.” So it’s right in the scripture that in the last times God’s going to prophesy. So no, prophecy didn’t end with John the Baptist. What ended with the last apostle was the public revelation of Christ and the deposit of faith was then given to the church. No new public revelation has been expected to be forthcoming ever since then. It was completed. But that doesn’t mean that God still wasn’t going to speak to us. It doesn’t mean that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit were going to be silent. No, St. Paul then speaks about the gifts in the body of Christ beginning with the apostles, secondly prophets. And now here we are living in these last days, last times of what John Paul II calls the times of the final confrontation between the church and the anti-church. And so here we are now and people are prophesying. People are getting dreams. People are getting visions. We’re getting the letters, aren’t we Daniel, from people. We don’t share them all because you simply can’t share them all.

Daniel O’Connor
27:44 – 27:45
Silence.

Mark Mallett
27:44 – 28:30
You have to discern them on a case-by-case basis. They don’t need to be made necessarily public, but people are sharing them in their own circles. This is waking people up. People are beginning to hear. Sometimes I can remember a friend of mine who eventually became part of my praise and worship ministry 25-30 years ago. The Lord spoke to him one word that began to change his life. And the word was this, “Prepare.” One single word the Lord gave him, “Prepare.” And it was so clear, he knew it was from God, he began to change his life. And you know, I hope I don’t mind saying this, but I probably shouldn’t, but he’s now the lead guy doing cat chat on EWTN. Just so you know. Some of you will figure that out.

Daniel O’Connor
28:29 – 28:31
[AUDIO OUT]

Mark Mallett
28:31 – 29:05
Close friend of mine. Beautiful guy. But look, that’s important to know, because look at how that one word, that one prophetic word led to him doing a children’s ministry on EWTN. So those who scoff at and despise prophecy, and we’ve been on the receiving end of this for years, we’re used to it, we expect it, and it’s worth it because we’ve also seen the fruit of the conversions and we’ve seen the letters of the conversions that have happened in people by what we’ve put on count in the kingdom.

Daniel O’Connor
28:52 – 28:53
Okay.

Mark Mallett
29:07 – 30:31
But nonetheless, this is still tough because we’re putting out messages like this one here to Selima, this will be a year of exceptional graces. Our Lady says the Jubilee year 2025. So now we have a prophet who is saying things as specific. So I guess the point is this, at Countdown we’re not here to promote Sears. We’re here to promote the scripture that says right on our homepage, let me just bring it out, let me just click on it and bring it up. Right on the front page of Countdown to the Kingdom, it’s scripture is the first thing you see from St. Paul. “Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything. Hold fast to what is good.” So Daniel, what you and I and our team at Countdown to the Kingdom are trying to do is to get people to start listening to the prophetic Word of Heaven, because Heaven is still speaking to us. And Can anything heaven say be unimportant? And the difficulty though that we’re finding with this is that sometimes seers will say something and you have to go back and say, “Well, that’s not right,” or “This may be theologically incorrect,” or “It just doesn’t match up.” And that’s a tough job for us.

Daniel O’Connor
30:27 – 34:09
I’m going to I’m going to Yes, let me, I’m pretty sure I have it here on my screen.

Mark Mallett
30:31 – 34:09
Now we want to make clear, we are not the final arbiter on this. We are not the bishops of these seers. It’s up to the magisterium to make the final decision, which as we’ve explained in previous webcasts, the best that the church will now proclaim is a neolobstat, saying that there’s nothing objectionable about a particular seer. And that’s not our job. But we are kind of a first line of wanting to, you know, we’re not just picking anybody who writes us a letter and says, “Here, listen to this.” We’re trying to pick seers who are credible. And we’ve found, we’ve had two or three or four seers that we no longer publish anymore because of issues. I mean, we’ve had a couple seers who on their personal websites have made schismatic statements and we’ve just decided we can’t really promote that. We don’t want people to go back to that site and go, “Oh, they’re promoting schisms.” So you can see this is a difficult thing for us. And I’m not saying we’ve quite got it nailed down, but we’re trying our best. For instance, we’ve got a seer who we’ve been publishing for a long time. This is Luz de Maria. And Luz de Maria de Benilla actually was given approval for some of the volumes of her messages by the bishop. But recently she’s come into the forefront of the news headlines, coming out saying that the first name of the Antichrist is Alex. And as you can see, this has generated a lot of videos here in just the last few days. Father Mark Goring, who we consider to be a friend, he’s a wonderful priest who’s boldly just been preaching about the times, and we really applaud him for doing that. And he was looking at that prophecy. You can see others are saying, “The shocking prophecy revealed, Antichrist named,” and so on. And we actually had this prophecy on our website. This was back in August 1st, 2024. And this appeared in the comments on Countdown to the Kingdom by Luz de Maria. Now, I have to admit that I actually didn’t see this comment. We have a team, there’s four or five of us who are taking part in Countdown to the Kingdom, And some of us are more dedicated to posting the messages of others. For instance, I’ll take care of posting, for instance, Jennifer or Pedro. And Daniel will come on and post somebody else. We have other people who are posting Lou’s messages. And some of them are very lengthy and they’re frequent. So I don’t always read them. No, Daniel, I think you haven’t been keeping up with Lou’s now for some time. And this comment of Luz saying that the name of the Antichrist is Alex, but he will be known by another name, this is the Antichrist. This appeared in her comments and I admit I don’t think I even read the comments. I don’t always read the comments in Luz. I read the messages, but I don’t always read the comments. She’s one of the few Sears that we actually publish comments. So we need to talk about that because for one thing, naming the Antichrist comes with some concerns. And this, Daniel, this was actually voiced by St. Irenaeus centuries ago, and I think you have that quote there about the actual risks of trying to figure out or trying to name the Antichrist. Do you have that there? Yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
34:10 – 34:15
And so yeah, I, you know, Mark didn’t notice, I didn’t notice it either when this came out, what, nine months ago.

Mark Mallett
34:13 – 34:13
(laughs)

Daniel O’Connor
34:16 – 34:20
I mean, I, so I stepped back from Lose actually several years ago.

Mark Mallett
34:17 – 34:20
Yeah, here we go. (phone ringing)

Daniel O’Connor
34:20 – 35:16
So I just kind of haven’t been in the Lose loop for a very long time now. But this of course kind of went viral, you know, just this week. So we really have to discuss it now. And, you know, as Mark said, Father Mark Goering, I think he’s just one of the great prophets. And I don’t mean like, you know, putting out messages like some of the, sorry, there we go. But please keep an eye on his messages. They’re very important. Certainly no criticism there. But here we have St. Irenaeus, and hopefully that’s showing up on your screen there. This is actually in his book “Against Terrorists.” And St. Irenaeus, he’s one of the key fathers of the church to really focus on today, ’cause he was, of course, a father of the church, but also a doctor of the church. Recently, Pope Francis declared him a doctor of the church, And that actually makes him the only father doctor martyr in the whole history of the church. So this guy is completely unique.

Mark Mallett
35:14 – 35:16
Wow. Yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
35:16 – 35:26
And I love focusing on him because he is one of the strongest in support of the era of peace. And I’ll get, we’ll get to that in another webcast. Sorry, I switched my screen there when I noticed it was.

Mark Mallett
35:26 – 35:29
That’s all right. No, we’re having fun.

Daniel O’Connor
35:27 – 36:33
But here we are back. Yeah, this is new, sorry. As I’m in my new room here, finishing my renovations, I’m trying to set up a screen sharing. This is our first time trying it out. Yeah, I hope it’s working but in the last line there you can see yeah And I didn’t I didn’t highlight it, but if you just look at the final couple lines there. I’m gonna just Read maybe the last sentence the last sentence or two Another danger by no means trifling st. Irenaeus says shall overtake those who falsely presume that they know the name the Antichrist. For if these men assume one quote one bracket number of this Antichrist shall come having another they shall easily be led away by him supposing him not to be the expected one who must be guarded against.” So here we have a father of the church in the opening centuries of church history warning against this apocalyptic danger of saying the name of the Antichrist before the Antichrist public entrance.

Mark Mallett
35:40 – 35:41
But there’s the bottom paragraph, yeah.

Daniel O’Connor
36:34 – 36:42
Because if you say his name, if you say you know his name, and we’re not saying Luz is claiming to know, like we’re being, we’re not at all maligning Luz here.

Mark Mallett
36:40 – 36:42
I’m not sure if I’m

Daniel O’Connor
36:42 – 37:30
I think she’s a very holy woman. But we just have to be careful about the danger of naming the Antichrist. There are those who say that based on his number, you know, 666, they’ve determined his name. I get emails every month and I have for many years, all these people who think that they decode But also we have to be careful with messages that claim to say the name of the Antichrist because if you think you know the Name of the Antichrist, what does that do to you? It makes your guard fall down For anyone in the whole world who doesn’t have that name and what if that’s wrong, you know Let’s take a Pascal’s wager approach to this if you think you know the name of the Antichrist and you’re wrong You’ve just opened yourself up You have just opened up your soul to deception from anyone who happens to not have that name.

Mark Mallett
37:10 – 37:24
(phone ringing) (chuckles) (TV playing in background)

Daniel O’Connor
37:31 – 38:33
If you are, if you remain confident in your non-confidence, if you remain confident in your ignorance, as I certainly am trying to here, not knowing the name of the Antichrist, I don’t know the name of the Antichrist, then you remain on guard against anyone who seems to fulfill these prophecies. And I believe that it will be clear to the faithful when the Antichrist assumes his public dominion, and I think he is pulling the strings behind the scenes already, I believe that. But if we as the faithful remnant try to remain open to it being anyone of any name, then I think we’re going to be most on guard then, as opposed to just deciding that we know his name beforehand. And that’s going to let our guard down against anyone who doesn’t have that name. That’s certainly my concern and I didn’t even know until I did more research that that was also the very concern of a father of the church many centuries ago, that those who presume to name the Antichrist are priming themselves to succumb to him.

Mark Mallett
37:55 – 41:13
(dog whining) Right. Right. And I might add that when I heard about this, when this came out in the news, because news websites have covered it and other bloggers or podcasters are talking about this, that the first name of the Antichrist is Alex, I immediately thought of another very popular mystic. I won’t say who it is, but I wrote him and I asked him, because he publicly said that he had seen in a by-location, it seemed to be face-to-face with the Antichrist. I asked him, I said, “In that revelation that you had,” and he didn’t name who it was, I said, “Was that person that you saw, who you said was the Antichrist, was his name Alex?” And his response to me was, “No.” So now we’ve got two mystics who we see a certain amount of credibility in, who are now having opposing views. So all we’re saying at this point is you have to be careful with this. And part of that caution for us is that there’s been a couple other things that came up in a message from Luz. This just demonstrates, it just highlights why even with the best of seers, you have to be careful. I mean, let’s go to what St. Hannibal said about the saints. He said, “Conforming to prudence and sacred accuracy, people cannot deal with private revelations as if they were canonical books or decrees of the Holy See. For example, who could ratify in full all the visions of Catherine Ambrick and St. Brigitte which show evident discrepancies. So St. Hannibal, who was the spiritual director of Louisa Picareta said, “You know what, you can’t treat this like it’s infallible canonical books of the Bible. If you want infallible prophecy, read your Bible. But you’re not going to get infallible prophecy with the seers on countdown or any seers in the world. They are fallible instruments. And what they perceive in their minds, through their imaginations, through their vocabulary, can affect, as a filter, what they receive. And something came up with Luz de Marie for instance, and I’ll find this message here. I had it up just a moment ago. That kind of raised some eyebrows with us and we just wanted to bring it up because other people have mentioned it and brought it up.

Daniel O’Connor
41:08 – 41:10
Bye.

Mark Mallett
41:14 – 41:46
And I had it just in front of me just a moment ago. Yeah, there we go. This happened in just last year, November 5th, 2024. And this was a message from Eleuze where she said, allegedly from Our Lady, that like a monster opposed to the good, what men have named Hurricane Raphael, this specter of evil came to destroy, not to heal. This hurricane came to cause destruction and disease over the whole earth.

Daniel O’Connor
41:45 – 41:50
And Mark, if you scroll up just a little bit, I don’t think we can see. There we go.

Mark Mallett
41:50 – 41:52
Okay, there’s the whole of it, right.

Daniel O’Connor
41:51 – 41:52
Yeah. So there’s the quote you just read.

Mark Mallett
41:55 – 42:37
So you read that, just on its face right there, the idea that a hurricane could cause destruction and disease over the whole earth, just from a mere scientific, geological point of view, it stopped me and I thought, “That doesn’t seem right.” And as it turns out, this hurricane hit Cuba, it took a good swipe at it, turned south and fizzled out. There’s no indication whatsoever that this caused destruction and disease over the whole earth. So I don’t know if you have anything to comment on that before we just scroll down to the next part of that message.

Daniel O’Connor
41:55 – 42:50
And if we look at– sorry. Well, yeah, it’s, and you know, and this is the thing is this kind of the strangeness of it on face value, there will always be those who say, Oh, well, that that didn’t happen because it was mitigated by prayer.

Mark Mallett
42:41 – 44:43
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I’m not sure if He’s a little bit tired, so I *chewing*

Daniel O’Connor
42:51 – 45:20
And, you know, we get that all the time. When we discern prophecies in retrospect, as we must, as scripture says, test prophecy, fast to what is good. It doesn’t say hold fast only to those seers that are good. It says hold fast to what is good, implying that there can be mixed bags among these alleged seers. They can have legitimate supernatural insights, but they can be also mixed in with the seer confusing their own imagination for a heavenly revelation. We just need to be cognizant that that’s a possibility. We need to not take a black and white absolutist approach to these living seers, and it’s a minefield to discern living seers. You know, as Mark said, if you want infallible prophecy, go to scripture for that. We need to listen to the prophets today, but we need to not treat them like scripture. So we have this problem at its face, but we also have those who will say, and that’s what I would respond to those who would say, oh, no, Hurricane Raphael, it didn’t decimate the whole world because that prophecy was mitigated by prayer. Well, yes, chastisements definitely can be mitigated by prayer, But we also need to be careful in not using that as a carte blanche As a get out of jail free card for any prophecy to just fail that’s that’s too often used and every time you see that Brought up. I’ll be real quick at this but they bring up Jonah and I think there’s a lot of misunderstandings about Jonah, um Jonah Went through Nineveh saying 40 days more Nineveh will be destroyed right? Is that what God said? No threatens his wrath upon Nineveh. He never said 40 days more. Jonah, that was from Jonah himself. Go back and read Jonah, you’ll see, you’ll take in front of what I’m saying here. God never said in exactly 40 days, Nineveh will be destroyed. And so I think people make a little bit too much out of Jonah and I think they, and I don’t mean they make too much out of Scripture, you could never make too much out of Scripture. I mean they try to, I think there’s a little bit too much of using Jonah as the get out of jail free card for every failed prophecy today. God didn’t say Nineveh would be destroyed in 40 days. That really was kind of a false statement from Jonah’s own lips. And guess what? Jonah is not exactly the model prophet, was he? He rebelled against God before he preached to Nineveh, and then he did the same after. He complained that that Nineveh wasn’t destroyed.

Mark Mallett
45:18 – 45:20
(computer beeping)

Daniel O’Connor
45:21 – 45:49
So he’s not exactly the prophet you should be looking up to. And as a final point, I’ll just say, Nineveh actually was destroyed. This is what too few people know. It was just destroyed a little later. God’s word was fulfilled and his word is always fulfilled ’cause he knows the future with perfect, with absolute perfection. He knows everything that’ll ever happen. And God is fully capable of giving a prophecy that simply will happen. So yes, mitigation, that’s very important, but heaven is not incompetent.

Mark Mallett
45:48 – 45:54
I’m not sure if

Daniel O’Connor
45:49 – 46:27
heaven is able to indicate what can be mitigated and what can’t be mitigated. So I’m just saying we need to kind of back off a little bit. Some people have this idea that just, oh, just any prophecy can fail and that’s fine ’cause chastisement can be mitigated. That’s a very sloppy non-theological approach. So when we keep that in mind, then we look at what some of these messages have said, just I don’t have it figured out. I’m not trying to condemn anyone here. I’m just saying concerns remain when we see that this just, this didn’t happen as the message described it would in a non-conditional way.

Mark Mallett
46:24 – 46:25
(keyboard clicking)

Daniel O’Connor
46:28 – 46:30
And that’s confirmed when we look at what’s later in the message.

Mark Mallett
46:31 – 46:57
Yeah, and I think if the problem is is that if every hard prediction gets mitigated, then suddenly hard predictions become meaningless. They become completely irrelevant because we could just say, well, You’ll never know what’s true and what’s not, who’s a true prophet and who’s a false prophet, because they can just say anything at that point, and it’s just always mitigated because everybody was praying.

Daniel O’Connor
46:45 – 46:46
Right, right.

Mark Mallett
46:58 – 47:25
And I would argue against it. If you look at what Our Lady is saying to these seers, She’s actually saying that we’re not listening. You just heard me saying to Salima, to Simona, to Angela, Our Lady is saying, “You’re not listening.” trial you’re entering because you’re not listening. So the idea that prophecy is being mitigated one after another right now, that doesn’t hold water.

Daniel O’Connor
47:19 – 47:26
Silence. Silence.

Mark Mallett
47:25 – 47:28
It actually contradicts the prophetic consensus of what Our Lady is saying.

Daniel O’Connor
47:27 – 47:27
Right.

Mark Mallett
47:30 – 47:38
And later on in that message to Luz de Maria, Our Lady allegedly says, “My little ones, I call you not to travel at this time.

Daniel O’Connor
47:35 – 47:36
Silence.

Mark Mallett
47:39 – 48:52
Obey little children. Obey unless you are returning to your homes.” Well, again, this was November 5th, 2024. And you and I read that and it was, again, maybe the time will come where we shouldn’t travel, but it seemed to be, she was saying right there, don’t travel unless you’re going home. But we know there’s some 100,000 flights in the world every single day. I have some friends who just got back from Rome. The whole bunch of them, with our bishop, went. They said it was just the most blessed time. They were there for two weeks. I’ve traveled, you’ve traveled, and now this is the year of the Jubilee. If we travel, if we make pilgrimages to cathedrals and churches, we are to receive special graces, plenary indulgences. This is the year to travel and make pilgrimages. So again, you look at something like this and maybe the idea is that this is a message that has a time. I don’t know what your thoughts are. That’s just my thoughts. I don’t know if you have anything to discern on this particular message.

Daniel O’Connor
48:53 – 49:39
Well, I just, I gotta be really blunt in looking at this. I mean, the word “obey” there is repeated, what, six times? I mean, that’s first of all, that’s just not a supernatural sense I get. It’s just this repeated insistence, obey, obey, obey, obey. You’re a bad person if you don’t obey. This is almost the sense I’m getting from that paragraph. Right, and thanks be to God, I did travel when this message said don’t. ‘Cause I was at baptisms and giving talks and there were huge occasions of graces and I would have burned bridges if I didn’t go for the baptism of my own God’s son that I’d travel a long distance for. And apparently according to this message, I was being really disobedient to Our Lady by traveling to these holy events, which thanks be to God, I did travel to.

Mark Mallett
49:31 – 49:33
(distant voices)

Daniel O’Connor
49:40 – 50:01
And there’s no indication whatsoever in that message that that was for a later time. That was said, don’t travel unless you’re coming home. That’s the only exception. And I’m sorry, but that’s the opposite of what the Holy Spirit is asking us through the church. And I’m gonna trust the church before an alleged living seer. The church gives us this extraordinary year of grace, this Jubilee year.

Mark Mallett
50:01 – 50:02
(baby crying)

Daniel O’Connor
50:03 – 50:44
And you can get two plenary indulgences a day this year for the first time in church history. And I, unfortunately, I don’t think I will be able to make it to Rome, but there’s these special graces if you can make it to Rome and other holy doors. The Holy Spirit is asking us, and Suleima, we’ll get back to that in a minute here, a message that I do feel right about, that I do feel the voice of heaven in, which frankly, I don’t feel that. I feel fear and anxiety in that. And sure, troubling things are coming, but I’ve heard way more people responding to me, reaching out to me with thoughts of fear and anxiety from reading stuff like that from Luz than any other seer.

Mark Mallett
50:35 – 50:37
(phone ringing)

Daniel O’Connor
50:44 – 50:45
And that gives me pause.

Mark Mallett
50:45 – 50:45
Hmm.

Daniel O’Connor
50:46 – 51:05
And this is anecdotal, I know. I’m not the church commission and I submit to whatever the church decides on this, of course, but I have to also keep an eye out for that. You know, it’s just, I don’t see the fear and anxiety with other seers as I do when, with people reading stuff like that, you know, six times in one paragraph being told to obey me and don’t travel.

Mark Mallett
51:03 – 51:06
Right. (dog whining)

Daniel O’Connor
51:06 – 51:19
And then I see Suleymane talking about this, this great year of grace, take advantage of this before the door closes. And heaven is saying through Suleymane, the door hasn’t closed yet. And this is what I’ve been repeating just so strongly for a while now.

Mark Mallett
51:17 – 51:17
(chuckles)

Daniel O’Connor
51:20 – 51:30
The door is about to close, but it hasn’t closed yet. So use this opportunity while the door is still open mercy. Get the word out there. It’s still legal to proclaim Jesus Christ. It won’t be for much longer.

Mark Mallett
51:23 – 51:27
I’m going to make a

Daniel O’Connor
51:30 – 52:16
So get his name out there and travel to get his name out there. Do discern the will of God for you and don’t live in fear, locking your door, being afraid of the chastisements coming, being afraid of the sunlight itself, being afraid of whatever contagious disease is coming next. Yeah, that’ll all come and God’s going to guide you in the process. These messages, as we’ve said from the beginning, the whole point of this, the whole point of the seers and the message is to give us more encouragement, more zeal in living the message we should be living already as Christians. To proclaim the divine mercy and to become saints urgently because we won’t have much time left to do so. That’s always been the message of the faith, right? Because our death is coming soon.

Mark Mallett
51:49 – 51:52
(phone ringing)

Daniel O’Connor
52:16 – 52:23
But if you add to that this consideration that the time of mercy is ending soon, that same calling as Christians becomes all the more urgent.

Mark Mallett
52:22 – 52:25
(child crying)

Daniel O’Connor
52:23 – 52:40
And I don’t understand how anyone can see that as a bad thing, except in the case where that call seems to be subverted by the very messages themselves that seem to sometimes give this sense of retreat. Don’t travel.

Mark Mallett
52:34 – 52:34
Right.

Daniel O’Connor
52:41 – 52:41
Protect yourself.

Mark Mallett
52:41 – 54:16
Right, right. And so, you can see the difficulty that we’re in. in on Countdown to the Kingdom at times with some of these seers and some of these messages. But you know, there shouldn’t be two extremes. There shouldn’t be the one extreme where you quench the Spirit, you despise prophecy, as St. Paul says. And then on the other hand, there’s the other extreme, which people form almost a cult behind seers. And you’re not allowed to criticize them. You’re not allowed to discern their messages. You’re not allowed to talk about it. You just accept it. You dare throw shade on a seer. And both of these extremes are extraordinarily unhealthy in the church. Very unhealthy. And this is the reason that I have pity on, I have compassion for our bishops, because they generally get these kinds of extremes. And they’re supposed to wade through it. And so there is. That’s one of the risks with Countdown to the Kingdom, that people run. They run with fear. They run with anxiety. They run with sensationalism. And that’s not what we’re doing this project for. We at Countdown to the Kingdom is here to help you, along with the church, to test prophecy and retain what is good. So those of you who are following Luz de Maria, test her prophecies, retain what is good. And don’t look at her or any other seer on Countdown, or any other seer for that matter, looking for a completely perfect bulletproof messages because you won’t find them.

Daniel O’Connor
54:11 – 59:12
I’m going to I’m going to Amen.

Mark Mallett
54:18 – 59:11
There’s just stuff that has grammatical stuff. I mean, St. Anable talked about all the grammatical errors and the seers and we see that on some of the seers on countdowns. It’s like, well, Jesus wouldn’t have used that word. But it’s sometimes how the seers remember and write these things down. And this is an important discussion because now we’re getting into specific prophecies. Like this one, again, this comes from Angela, and again, our lady is saying, “Children, these are the times of my great call. The hour of the great battle is near, but do not be afraid. Walk with me. Walk on the path that I have shown you over these years. Open your hearts to listening to the Word. Draw strength from the Word and the Eucharist. Be persevering in prayer. Be witnesses of prayer. Let your lives be prayer. Children, today I ask you again to form prayer centicals. Your homes must be scented with prayer. Every home must be a small domestic church. I want the Holy Rosary to be prayed in every family. And in another message to her or to Salima, either one of them, Our Lady says, I want you to be beacons of light in the world. So the message from heaven to us today is not hide in your basement, hide in your house, but to get out there. You are the light of the world as we heard in the mass readings this past week. Jesus said I’m the light of the world, but you are the light of the world. And this is the message from Our Lady, especially through the messages of Medjugorje. She’s calling us to shine, to be present to others, to bring peace into the world. And St. Paul said it, he said, the darker that it gets, he says, the more shine like stars he says amongst this wicked and perverse generation. Don’t hide your light beneath a bushel basket. And so Our Lady again is calling us to the sacraments, to prayer, to the rosary, to being faithful. And she says, and we encourage you to go and read and discern these messages from Selima And from angela and simona and others who are there. We’ve posted emmanuel strach pedrigius and others in recent days And some of these are just so I for me at least just beautiful sublime powerful direct encouraging And especially to selima and angela and simona But particularly to selima you’re going to hear repeated from jesus and our lady over and over again We are going to protect you and take care of you even though It’s going to be chaos this year Well daniel, we’ll see We’ll find out we’ll see in the days ahead. It’s no you and I There’s no pressure on us on countdown to put these prophecies out there and to say to people discern them If they don’t happen, then you and if you say look, I don’t trust that seer anymore fine Because we’re part with you of the senses fidelium, the sense of the faithful who are called to also, as the catechism says, the faithful know how to discern and really how to use these messages, how to bring them into their lives. And that’s what we’re supposed to do. We’re supposed to listen to this, retain what is good, and get on with living in the present moment. And that was a message to Salima, I think, where Jesus said, or a lady said to her, live in the present moment and give to us the future. Maybe we’ll end on that note, Daniel. Our Lady is saying, live in the present moment, give to us the future. What does that mean? That means go for a walk today, go outside, go into the sun, let the sun, you know, get that vitamin D going again in your body as the spring breaks forth. Be there with your family, be there with your neighbors and your friends. Those work projects, those plans you have, keep going with those plans. As we’ve seen, we started five years ago, Daniel, with this project, and just things seem to be so rapidly unfolding in the world, and in many respects, they’ve been mind-blowing in their acceleration. But on the other hand, we’ve also seen this reprieve we had after COVID and so on and everything right now. We’ve got this space, and as our lady said, She says, “The Father, the door hasn’t closed yet. “You’ve got this time of mercy.” And so, brothers and sisters, we encourage you to live in the present moment, but start to listen to what our lady’s saying. They’re clearly telling us that the door’s almost closed, and we better be paying attention. Daniel, the last word goes to you. We got about 30 seconds.

Daniel O’Connor
59:13 – 59:59
And I want to emphasize what Mark said, the faithful will know how to discern these revelations. Mark and I are not the faithful doing the discernment for you. We’re one of the faithful trying to discern with you. I don’t have it figured out. And please don’t think that I pretend I do. I’m sure I deserve many criticisms. I’m sure we both do. Give us your thoughts. Help us to discern the signs of the times together. And let’s leave with what Suleymane is saying the time of the great persecution of the church is approaching, but my Jesus, my son Jesus will make her revive. She will be holy, beautiful, humble as my son founded her. These chastisements that are coming are just the preludes to the resurrection of the church, the reign of the divine will on earth as in heaven.

Mark Mallett
59:56 – 01:00:04
Amen. Hope. Great hope lies ahead of us. We’ll be back again soon. God bless you all. See you next time.

Daniel O’Connor
01:00:05 – 01:00:06
God bless.