St. John’s Revelation speaks of a confrontation between a “woman clothed in the sun” and a “dragon.” The interesting thing is that it takes place, literally, in the “sky” (Greek: ouranus).
Both Jesus and St. Paul spoke of signs, good and bad, that would appear in the sky. It’s happening now…
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Mark Mallett • 00:00
In Revelation chapter 12, Scripture speaks of a final confrontation between a woman and a dragon. And what’s really interesting is St. John says that this takes place literally in the sky. More on that next on Countdown to the Kingdom. Hello, I’m Mark Mallett, and welcome back to Countdown to the Kingdom. I am joined now by my colleague in Albany, New York. Daniel, great to see your face again. Man, it’s been too long.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 00:44
It has been too long, brother. But good to see your face again as well and to be back in the fight here.
Mark Mallett • 00:50
Yeah, that’s what it is, isn’t it? And we’ve been trying so hard to get together. We’re constantly emailing and trying. And it’s just, I don’t know, it’s just one thing after another. But I keep meeting people at conferences I’m speaking. I know you run into people. And they keep saying, you know, we love you guys. We love what you’re doing. We love the work. And, you know, glory be to God. You know, when I heard in Winnipeg, when I was at a conference, a men’s conference, this was about a month and a half ago, there were so many people that came up to me and said, we were converted through countdown to the kingdom. I came back to my faith. I’ve come back to the Lord. And these people were on fire because of these webcasts and so on. So maybe it’s no surprise that it’s such a struggle for us to get to do these together. But nonetheless, you know, when I heard that, I was so deeply touched because you and I both know what punks we are. But what a privilege it is. Yeah. What a privilege it is, though, for us to be able to share with people the gospel, but also to have webcasts like these. Because we’re living in exciting times, but we’re living in extraordinarily dangerous times, aren’t we? There are. Right now more than ever. You know, let’s go right into our show. Revelation chapter 12. Let me bring that out. It says, and we’re going to explain to you exactly what I said in the introduction, that a great sign appeared in heaven. A woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and on her head, a crown of 12 stars. She was with child and she cried out being in labor and in pain to give birth. So it says a great sign appeared in heaven. That word heaven is Oranos. That’s the Greek word Oranos. And it means sky. Now let’s go to verse 3. And another sign appeared in heaven, that is Oranos, the sky. And behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns on its head with seven diadems. His tail swept away a third of the stars. He stood before the woman to devour her child when she gave birth. We won’t get into all of the symbolisms of the crown of stars, the tail and everything. The main point here is there’s a confrontation between the woman and the dragon. And both of them, according to scripture, they appear literally in the sky, in the heavens above us. And so, I don’t know, what do you think that is, Daniel?
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 03:34
Well, don’t look up. or maybe do depending upon what’s up but something is going on in the sky and it’s been going on for a long time in both a very good way and a very bad way obviously let’s do the good news first the modern era of apparition started of course you could pin it at a few different points but really uh things picked up extraordinarily with our lady of fatima and what made that so extraordinary number of things but most famously the miracle of the sun the sun dancing in the sky hurtling down to earth as it seemed the holy family appearing in the sky along and and so many other phenomena like that in front of a hundred thousand people even secular newspapers reporting on it extraordinary and we’ve seen many such uh great signs and wonders from the the truly supernatural from God himself through the ministration of our lady, the angels. We’ve seen many miracles, the sun. I saw extraordinary things in the sky when I was at Medjugorje in 2010 now. So that was a while ago, but I’ll never forget seeing the, I believe it was the moon doing circles in the sky. So we’ve got our lady sending signs in the sky, announcing these great times that are upon us and so many other events like that. And of course we know what will be coming soon. I don’t know the date. No one does, except perhaps a few special souls. But I think very soon we will also see a really great sign in the sky, a sign of the cross in the sky, and an illumination of conscience, the warning. But what is happening on the flip side of the coin? Well, the woman is being attacked by the dragon. The dragon, the devil, seeks to oppose God, obviously. But he also has an even more seductive plan, and that’s to seek to take credit for himself for the acts of God. So arrogant he is. So what have we seen since 1947 especially? We’ve seen this explosion of false signs and wonders in the sky. The UFO phenomena, the ET phenomena. Hundreds of reports. This is a torrent of reports since 1947. We can talk more about that year later maybe. But what I see in this, and it’s reaching a culmination right now, it’s stunning what’s converging on the news before our eyes with the battle of the woman and the dragon in the sky. And there’s so many more things from the fathers of the church, private revelation, scripture that warn us about what’s transpiring in the sky, the atmosphere, literally what’s above us.
Mark Mallett • 06:15
And I’m just going to recommend right now two books. If you want to read more about the woman appearing in the sky, especially in this past century, Thomas Petrisco, many of you know, he’s written about the illumination of conscience and his book here called Twilight of Marxism. I’m reading it. You can see it’s like a Bible. It’s absolutely fascinating. Thomas has written it in a narrative style, but it’s he’s taken resources. He said he had a garage full of books that had been sent to him, manuscripts, things from people like Mr. Hafferty and others. And he’s compiled all this research on the Marian apparitions, particularly of the last century. And it just shows undoubtedly this woman is appearing literally in the sky. The second book I want to, many of you know about this, is The Man Sitting Right Next to Me, The First and Last Deception. Aliens, UFOs, AI, and The Return of Eden’s Demise. And equally as good and even more theologically in-depth is Only Man Bears’ Image, again, by Mr. O’Connor sitting across the screen from me. So I wanted to recommend those books because there’s so much that you’ve done in this work, Daniel, to expose this. And it’s fantastic. But this show, we want to be focused because we could go on for hours. There’s so much there. But why don’t we start right now with the fact that, of course, we’ve got Mr. Trump doing what we call a disclosure, a UFO disclosure. It’s been all over the news of video clips and so on of supposed unidentified flying objects, UFOs and so on. And all of this kind of pointing toward the idea that, hey, there’s maybe other life forms out there in the universe. But I think people are kind of used to that. They might find it interesting. But I think one of the most powerful deceptions coming might very well be this new movie coming out called Disclosure. Did I get the title right, Daniel?
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 08:22
Disclosure Day. Yeah.
Mark Mallett • 08:24
Disclosure Day by Mr. Steven Spielberg. And so we thought, you know, pictures speak a thousand words. We’ll just let the trailer itself speak.
Trailer • 08:38
If you found out we weren’t alone If someone showed you Proved it to you Would that frighten you?
Trailer • 08:53
Good morning, Kansas City Let’s take a look at today Let’s Let’s Today is Today’s
Steven Spielberg • 09:10
Creepy.
Trailer • 09:33
Creepy. You wouldn’t believe me if I told you. So I’m gonna show you.
Trailer • 09:42
What are you gonna do?
Trailer • 09:44
Full disclosure to the whole world. All at once. People keep wandering. encountering the unknown. They’re coming! They’re coming!
Steven Spielberg • 10:10
They are starved for the truth.
Trailer • 10:15
Do you think there could be others?
Trailer • 10:20
Why would he make such a vast universe? Yet save it only for us?
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 10:44
coming out on the feast of the sacred heart in just a couple weeks june 12th
Mark Mallett • 10:49
on the feast of the sacred heart oh wow and the sacred heart provides the answer to that
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 10:56
rhetorical question that the nun that bielberg puts in the lips of a catholic nun what are some of the lines that stood out for you in that the so many stood out in that and as we’ll get to in a moment so much has stood out in spielberg’s own words because a lot of people would say daniel you’re looking too much into this this is just a movie it’s just entertainment don’t take it from me take it from spielberg himself in just the past few days he has repeatedly and insistently said that this is real and that he means it and he’s trying to form in you a belief system he has been the chief promoter of this deception in fiction for 50 years now and this is his magnum opus coming but when it showed when you saw the beginning of that trailer what if someone showed what if someone showed you that we were not alone what if they could prove green as they’re saying that is a little girl’s hand with a crucifix in it they’re inundating us with pseudo theology and catholic imagery because that’s the devil’s ultimate target with the great deception is the church of god the the antichrist seeks to enthrone himself in the holy place and the devil’s target has always above all been the catholic church the one true church so what i see spielberg doing with that and of course we’ll see for sure once the movie comes out in a few weeks but what i see him doing already and even this trailer is saying you know that stuff that religion stuff maybe that’s nice if it makes you feel good but no one can prove that to you no one can show that to you but we are going to show you that we’re not alone through something that can be proven namely the disclosure of extraterrestrials and then um they go on and that guy interviewing somebody says that the people are starved for the truth so the truth belongs to everyone yeah that’s true you see it’s true that people are starved for the truth and the the the the promoters of this great deception they realize it and they are presenting the disclosure of extraterrestrials as the great revelation i mean think about the word disclosure itself uncovering what else means that exact same thing revelation apocalypse the the disclosure day is the devil’s alternative to god’s revelation of himself in christ it’s the day of the lord the devil apes the day of the lord the verse the day of disclosure it’s it’s frightening how much they are deliberately aping all the central tenants of the faith through this whole et deception that’s now reaching a culmination but then the biggest thing from that trailer and it gets even worse as we’ll go to in a moment with spielberg’s own words is what he dares to put in the lips of a catholic nun there why would god make such a vast universe and save it only for us and that’s the most common pseudo argument you hear that supposedly proves extraterrestrials the universe is so grand uh so so big it would be such a waste of space you’d be limiting god if if you didn’t believe in aliens um jesus has told us in scripture and in private revelation and throughout all sacred tradition why he made the universe namely for us and he said very specifically to some mystics we’ll get to shortly why he did that.
Mark Mallett • 14:23
Yeah. So why don’t we go right now to Steven Spielberg’s words. And, you know, he very clearly in this tells us that, and you heard these different quotes setting us up for what he calls a new belief system. Let’s take a listen.
Steven Spielberg • 14:41
But this movie is much more like the reality that we all experience today. I don’t make a lot of contemporary movies about today. I’ve done a lot of period films. I’ve done Minority Report takes place in the future, as does Ready Player One. I don’t settle on the present very often, but we needed the present tense. That was the essential part of our creating, hopefully, a belief system that the audience will say, oh my God, this is here. This is happening.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 15:15
He just told you what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to create a belief system with this.
Mark Mallett • 15:20
And that’s the great deception that we are trying to show people that this is what is coming. And it’s already creating massive confusion. So why don’t we just pick, we picked a few little quotes. I’m going to just sloppily scroll through them. Just some quick ones where you’re hearing Mr. Spielberg in another interview kind of showing us what these various belief systems are that we’re supposed to grasp onto.
Steven Spielberg • 15:50
I am much more inclined now than I was when I made Close Encounters. To really believe that we’re not the only intelligent civilization in the universe. This is a story about us, all of us. How will disclosure change us? I believe for the better. It will remind us of our capacity for empathy and that there is something bigger out there than just ourselves.
Trailer • 16:26
What happened to us?
Steven Spielberg • 16:30
I used to say to myself, wouldn’t it be wonderful if all of this turned out to be true? I’m now thinking, wouldn’t it be wonderful for people to know… All of this is true.
Mark Mallett • 17:02
Disclosure day. Well, as it turns out, it’s actually deer are actually aliens.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 17:12
This whole time, we didn’t know that they’re walking around that we’re driving into with our cars. They’re the extraterrestrials. But that is just that aspect of this is actually going to delude so many people. So many people are going to start, after seeing this film, thinking that, man, maybe these deer and other animals really are extraterrestrials in disguise. people are going to get weird about this but yeah that last dog that last clip or the well that’s actually going to be a solid percentage of americans worship their dogs and they’re going to uh be very happy if their dogs are also extraterrestrials communicating with them anyway uh the the clip that you played at the end there with him saying um i what it wouldn’t it be wonderful if this were true what he said just a moment before that he was talking about when he first started making these films close encounters the third kind back in the 1970s he says now this just came out today or yesterday maybe that uh back then i was thinking wouldn’t it be wonderful if this were true so he was like skeptical maybe but now that clip at the very end that you heard is him speaking about this film and today saying wouldn’t it be wonderful if people realize that this is true so he is declaring now that this is true that his work yeah of course the details he’ll acknowledge our fiction but he’s going to insist and he is insisting right now that the story itself the disclosure of extra thresholds this is true and he’s trying to take that truth it’s not true it’s a lie the great deception but he’s trying to take that supposed truth and form a belief system out of it to and to beguile you with i mean he is the chief storyteller of the world and he has been for decades scripture and the last time people will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths steven spielberg is the world’s predominant myth maker no one else comes close to i mean look at the list of most prominent famous directors there’s no doubt that hollywood unfortunately is the chief storyteller in the world he is the king of hollywood in this regard so you better pay attention when he comes out with something like this i don’t know if he’s ever before in fact i’m sure he’s never before been so explicit about one of his works being actually
Mark Mallett • 19:33
something that’s supposedly true and jesus warned there will be many false prophets and false messiahs in fact in matthew 24 he warns he says there will arise many false prophets and because of the increase of evil doing the love of many will grow cold it’s almost like those two things go hand in hand because as the false prophets begin to drain belief in God, point people away from God, suggests that really it’s just us and the aliens out there. People’s faith in God begins to die and as that flame of faith dies, coldness begins to seize the world. So again, there’s so many things that Daniel and I could in this webcast address, but why don’t we go to that comment from we hear at the end of that trailer the nun she says uh basically this universe is so big how could there not be other life out there i’m paraphrasing her or putting words in her mouth but that’s essentially what she says yeah that’s that’s the gist yeah But to Servant of God, Louisa Picoretta, which really is the, I mean, I think we believe that these revelations to Servant of God, Louisa Picoretta, because they really address the fulfillment of the Our Father, are kind of almost the definitive revelations of our times because they’re pointing us to what all of this is about. And it’s really about God bringing man back into the image in which we are created, which involves also that we would live in the divine will as Adam once did. And so Jesus explains to her throughout these 36 diaries, volumes that she wrote, just how man is at the very center of creation. And you probably have some quotes in front of you. I do as well. But for instance, Jesus said to her, to Louisa in 1920, January 9th, each created thing holds out my love to man. And if it were not so, creation would have no purpose. And I do nothing without purpose. Everything has been made for man. Well, wait a minute. I mean, brother, if there’s aliens out there and they’re intelligent, in fact, even more intelligent than us, That implies that they too are made in the image of God. And yet God’s saying, no. Man, I tell you, this is all about my love for man. And if it were not so, creation would have no purpose.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 22:15
That’s amazing. And that’s one of so many teachings of Jesus to Louisa. That the purpose of these revelations is not to refute the E.T. deception, of course. But they do certainly succeed in that. And fittingly so that this, I agree, this is the most important private revelation. How fitting that it’s also the one that most clearly refutes the E.T. deception, passage after passage after passage. But I don’t even want to present it primarily under the aspect of what it’s refuting. I want to talk about the glory of what it’s promoting, what Mark just read there, that each created thing, the whole reason, every single thing in the universe, The reason Jesus made it, through him all things were made, is because it’s another way of him saying to human beings, I love you. Jesus tells Louisa that each created thing contains within it a mysterious delight. Something mysterious within each natural thing, each thing God created. It has its own way of calling you back to God. And some of the saints and mystics have said, go for a walk in the woods. You’ll learn from the trees what you can’t from any books. I think that was St. Bonaventure, maybe. Or maybe Bernard of Clairvaux. I can’t remember now. But this is very common in not just the apparitions and private revelation, but the traditional mysticism of the church, that all natural things are created for us. And they each reveal something about God. And they all call us back to him. So we’ve got the birds doing that one way, the flowers doing that another way, the sea doing that. And Jesus has beautiful paragraph after paragraph after paragraph in Luis’s revelations just describing how each created thing calls us back to him and speaks about him. And then what about the cosmos? Well, something in creation, if everything testifies to some attribute of God, and it does, then something needs to testify to his immensity and his eternity, his incomprehensible immensity and the incomprehensible immensity and eternity of heaven itself. What does that? The cosmos. God could have just had that night sky be an empty black void. He could have done that. But instead, he studded it with stars, with resplendent diamonds that we learn more and more about with each new telescope we invent. And you might say, okay, but why? Well, look at how glorious it is. Every new nebula we discover and the beautiful images we get of them, they’re all these beautiful testimonies to the grandeur of God. So to say, why would God make such a vast universe and save it only for us? It’s to just completely and fundamentally misunderstand the very essence of creation. And even more troublingly, and this is where we get to the great deception, it’s to completely misunderstand the essence of the incarnation. The central mystery of our faith, God made man. The greatest event ever. That happened precisely because man is the only material creature that bears his image. And that’s why Jesus became man and nothing else. He assumed our nature to redeem it and sanctify it.
Mark Mallett • 25:27
Yeah, the immensity of the universe. I mean, it boggles our minds when we hear about how massive the universe is. But rather than say, oh, well, then there must be other life. I just look at it and I say, no, that’s a parable of who God is. We, in heaven, when we’re with him in eternity, we will go from one knowledge to another knowledge, to another ecstasy, to another ecstasy. In discovering the depth of God, we will never reach the end of it. The universe is just a parable of that. And I love, and I wrote about this, I quoted it from your book, the two scientists who looked at the whole universe and that other scientists who calculated the odds of there actually being another Earth with just the right amount of sunlight, just the right amount of tilt, just the right amount of suspension from the sun, the right amount of water, the right amount of atmosphere. And what is it? One in a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 26:33
trillion did i get it right yeah you gotta go on for a while longer but yeah it makes the number of planets look like an absolute nothing yeah yeah and that’s you know we could have a whole we could have hours and hours of discussions of just the scientific ways we can disprove aliens and i’ll do a video on that someday but uh drilling down you know as catholics we should understand you know the secular of course don’t understand this but as christians and catholics we should understand that our most certain arguments are the theological ones you know the world scoffs at that they think that that’s all just um superstition but of course if you have supernatural faith you realize that the theological truths are the most certain so you should have the most confidence in those ones but yes of course we can also scientifically disprove aliens um i found the quote that um i was thinking of when you were at first talking about jesus words to luisa there he says in response to louisa doing the rounds of creation and that’s this is a major practice in the divine will of offering back to god and placing your love and adoration on each creative thing it’s kind of like the canticle of daniel’s companions in the old testament the canticle of saint francis there’s lots of grounding for this in tradition but louisa is specifically referring to the heavens and the stars among other things the sun the heavens the stars and jesus says there in response, look at how beautiful our works are. He says, we made use of creation to form our veils, our vast residences. However, we held back from giving reason to them because they were created for man, not for themselves. Therefore, we reserved giving to man the capacity of reason in the whole creation. So Jesus explicitly tells Louisa there’s no aliens. I mean, he doesn’t use the word aliens but it’s it’s a direct affirmation that in the whole creation the whole universe she’s specifically referring to all the stars and heavens only man has reason um we could go on and on i’ve got a ton of them here of other uh quotes from jesus to louisa that say the same thing but um suffice it to say if you believe jesus’s words to louisa and i sure hope you do that’s absolutely positively mutually exclusive with belief in aliens and she is as we have both
Mark Mallett • 28:47
said in our writings your books and so on are their webcasts she’s one of the most approved mystics in the church uh the vatican has released its own uh biography on her it’s working on a critical edition of her writings many of them already bear the neilavstat of imprimatur and she’s on her way to being canonized, at least the process of canonization. So we’re not going to argue about Louisa right now. It’s a non-argument as far as I’m concerned. But it’s also private revelation, and we remember that. What isn’t private revelation is the Word of God. 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 9, which says, The coming of the lawless one, that is the Antichrist, will be with the activity of Satan, And it will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders. Jesus himself said in Luke 21 that there would be signs in the sky. And so, once again, we go back to Revelation 12, what we started the show with. You’ve got two key signs. It’s the sign of Our Lady. But clearly, St. Paul is speaking of diabolical signs, pretended signs and wonders. And, you know, we were just looking, for instance, at this video here. This is in China. This is taking place over a city in China. And so, these are drones.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 30:41
and just imagine that getting even better which it will and how easily they could they could give the appearance of an extraterrestrial appearance from some even superior drone display
Mark Mallett • 30:54
to this and even this is mind-boggling we we also see for instance this is a technology that’s out there of holograms and this guy’s using spinning leds to create a hologram and it’s very very realistic again we’re not saying this is necessarily part of the ufo deception but it does go to show there’s signs and wonders out there i mean if you were in paul’s time you’d look at this and go
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 31:21
that’s that’s insane what’s going on here whether something comes from uh whether some psyop is human or diabolical the key thing is we won’t necessarily know which which ones which in the days that are coming you don’t need to know which it is you just need to know it’s a deception you need to know that what they’re telling you or what they’re implying with whatever signs and wonders are coming is a lie. This idea that extraterrestrials exist, first of all, that’s the more basic lie, but the real useful lie for them is that they’re now here, and this changes everything. Think about just back to, you know, 10 minutes ago when we were playing that clip from Spielberg. He himself, the chief storyteller, said, this is the most extraordinary event in human history. First of all, even if it were true, no, it’s not. It’s not even close. It’s infinitely inferior to the incarnation of god nothing could even imaginably come close to that uh spielberg of course doesn’t believe in that he’s not a christian but um if it it certainly would be unbelievably massive i’ll certainly grant that it would be the the phrase that the ufologist uses ontological shock this this existential complete ruining that it would just existentially ruin people uh so suddenly just that you thought you knew is shattered. And all the ufologists say this. They’re the biggest names in ufology, the biggest so-called whistleblowers. They’re all suddenly using this pseudo-religious language. Lou Elizondo is the chief player in the Age of Disclosure documentary. And he’s saying that this is a paradigm shift. It changes everything. And basically, it means you have to forget everything you were ever taught at Sunday school. You’ve got to forget everything your parents ever taught. He’s saying this. And David Grush, he just came out acknowledging that he’s a Catholic. And yet even he is saying that the extraterrestrials being here means that we finally know our place in the cosmos. And they’re going to give us a new era of spiritual awakening. You see, even, and what did Mark just read from the Gospel of Mark? Or maybe it was Matthew, actually, that the deception will deceive, if possible, even the elect. And we are seeing so many Christians and Catholics falling for this ET deception and even explicitly phrasing it in pseudo-religious terminology because that’s what the great deception is. It’s a religious deception, as the Catechism says, offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.
Mark Mallett • 33:58
The Catholic Church claims to have received all the truth. And that the Spirit, when I say all the truth, it’s the deposit of faith that God has left us, that God has revealed everything through Jesus Christ. And Jesus said, I will send you the Spirit to lead you into all truth. And this is why for 2,000 years the Catholic Church has made the claim that she is the guardian of the deposit of faith, the guardian of truth, and what Christ has taught. And so, if you don’t believe that, basically you’re open to anything at this point. But as Catholics, we have to accept what the Church herself teaches. And this is right from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It says, Christ, the Son of God made man, is the Father’s one perfect and unsurpassable Word. In Him, He has said everything. There will be no other word than this one. It goes on to say, in quoting St. John of the Cross, in giving us His Son, His only word, He spoke everything to us at once in this sole word, and He has no more to say. Because what He spoke to the prophets in parts, He has now spoken all at once by giving us the all who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior, but also of offending him by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty like UFOs. And so what I’m sharing with you is what the church is teaching us, which is an extension of the gospel. And therefore, what St. Paul says, Daniel and I say to you today, even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preach to you, let him be accursed. There is no revelation coming from aliens that we were seeded by them and we’re just part of a partly fallen race and that Jesus is actually incarnating himself on other planets and there’s other Marys. That is all a deception.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 36:19
Absolutely. And I know what some people will, what some critics might be thinking now. They think, okay, if God spoke everything in his soul word, you guys are quoting private revelation. What about that? Private revelation is always founded on that soul word. It has no right to depart from it whatsoever. The whole E.T. deception, it’s built on a completely separate thing. And even leaving aside how much it contradicts the word of God, which it does, and the magisterium and the fathers and everything. Even leaving that aside, it’s completely apart. It doesn’t flow from anything in the word of God. Even the most immense private revelation, I believe, that will ever happen, Jesus’ words to Luisa Picoretta, that’s completely founded on Matthew 6.10. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Jesus even says that to Luisa. He says, everything I’ve told you, it’s all contained in that verse. It’s a description of what it looks like to live in the divine will. It’s a call for us to live in the divine will as the saints do in heaven. Why? Because that’s the climax of the one and only prayer, the greatest prayer, the Our Father, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. We are praying to do God’s will, not just to like figure it out and obey it. That’s great. That’s necessary. But to actually live in it. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And there’s of course other scripture verses as well that these revelations flow from. But the point is all authentic private revelation, it has no right. It must never, it can never presume to lay a new foundation. All private revelation must be founded on the one and only public revelation, which was completed with the death of the last apostle John.
Mark Mallett • 37:52
So we can never expect a new one. And that’s why St. Paul says, even if an angel. And we believe, in part, that many of these manifestations of aliens to people are demonic apparitions. I met a guy in this Winnipeg Men’s Conference. He came up to me. He said, I was actually abducted by aliens. And I looked at him and I said, tell me. I said, do you believe they were aliens or do you believe they were fallen angels? And he didn’t miss a beat. He goes, oh, they were demons. And we have seen, I had another person write me, Mark Sanford wrote me, who is the son of John and Paula Sanford. Many of you know them for their work of inner healing. And Mark said to me, he said, we’ve prayed over so many people, thousands of people over the years. He said, we’ve never prayed over one Christian who was abducted by an alien after their conversion. But we’ve prayed with lots of people, he said, prior to their conversions who experienced these. And many of them, he said, when they used the name of Jesus, when they, from something within, they called out the name of Jesus, the aliens left. So, we have good reason to believe, based on that and many other things that you’ve written about, particularly in your masterful books. If you want the shorter one, again, it’s the first and last deception. I recommend the shorter one. Yeah, the shorter one. But the bigger one’s great, too. I’m reading them both. But you know what? That said, Private Revelation does have something to say, and we want to look at that. For instance, servant of Godfather Stefano Gobi, Our Lady gave him a pretty powerful message. And I think you’ve got that on your screen there, brother.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 39:41
I’ve got it in my notes here. And if you want to pull it up on countdown so you can do the screen share. As I read the quote in question, I can do that. But Our Lady told Father Stefano Gobi on March 25th, the Feast of the Annunciation in 1979, In these times of purification, many are led astray by other words. And then she says, my adversary, there it is, my adversary succeeds in seducing even the good by false manifestations of the preternatural in order to bring about deception and confusion on all sides. He will succeed in working many prodigies, which will beguile the minds even of the good. This is exactly the theme of our webcast tonight, the woman versus the dragon. She’s saying, who is the adversary of the woman? Well, of course, we know it’s all the way back in Genesis, the serpent. And that is the dragon, the devil. That was the first deception. That’s why I called my book The First and Last Deception. He’s using the same basic tactics now as he did in the garden itself. He assumes the disguise of a non-human incarnate intelligence, which, of course, doesn’t even exist. He never should have entered into dialogue with that. But now he wants to enter into dialogue with the world again. And Our Lady points out there to Father Gobi that this is seducing and beguiling the minds even of the good. That’s what Jesus said in the Gospel, that this will deceive, if possible, even the elect. And you do not see these abject apostate heresies infiltrating the elect anywhere else. And I want to do a video on this eventually. The elect, I would wager that the elect doesn’t just mean someone who calls himself a Christian is the elect. No, I think the elect, if you look at the word, it’s those who are on the path to heaven, like actually practicing orthodox minded state of grace type Catholics. I’m not saying everybody else is going to hell. I think God has great mercies prepared at the moment of death. But I’m just saying, objectively speaking, the elect are those walking the path to heaven. And those, objectively speaking, walking the path to heaven would be Catholics in the state of grace. They’ll say no to just about any heresy immediately. I mean, you look at the well-known Orthodox Catholic news sites and outlets. They’re pretty good at calling out heresies. But suddenly, if you present them under the aspect of extraterrestrial theology, anything goes. They’ll say, oh yeah, there’s multiple Jesuses. There’s multiple incarnations of God in all the galaxies. And there’s multiple mothers of God. And the end of time might not actually be the end of time at all. Suddenly, all this dogma just goes out the window if it’s presented under the pretense of exotheology. And you’ll see that, those exact things that I just listed on even the very best of well-known Orthodox Catholic websites, to deceive, if possible, even the elect, beguiling the minds, even of the good.
Mark Mallett • 42:41
So what Daniel is talking about here is a great deception that even some of the elect may be deceived. And this was the warning that came through the German seer, Manuela. I think she’s German. Yes, from Sviernik. Pardon my German folks. Germany. And Manuela Streck received this message allegedly from St. Pio, who said, A great deception will come. Do not rely on those who should know better. And that’s just exactly what you were talking about, Daniel. These apologists and so on who really should know better. instead says St. Pio allegedly rely on the Holy Scripture and on your fathers in the faith of the church this time was announced long ago dear children of the Lord and it should not frighten you and so with the last remaining minutes of this show why don’t we do that let’s turn to the fathers um I’ve got to just uh type this in here so I can get down here to where this is but let’s look at what some of the church fathers have said. And I think people are going to be surprised that the popes have addressed some of these ideas of other inhabited worlds. So Daniel and I are just going to take turns. We’re just going to whip through this with the remaining minutes we’ve got left. But you have St. Basil the Great, for instance, who recounted how people say that there are infinite heavens and worlds, but he proceeded to call these, I quote, the vain imagining of minds that have not submitted to divine revelation. That’s Saint Basil the Great.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 44:23
And then even after the age of the fathers into the medieval and early modern times, we’ve got popes issuing condemnations of belief in aliens. We’ve got here Pope Gregory XIII in his code of canon law. It was list. And by the way, when we’re talking about, oops, it just flashed it’s back whoa oh it’s gone again yeah there we go it was an alien when my screen got abducted we’re getting interference again the whenever you whenever you see the old works talk about multiple worlds that’s just how they phrased belief in aliens back then they didn’t mean planets like they knew there were multiple bodies in the heavens when they say worlds they mean inhabited worlds like ours so that’s right the et deception just in their terminology was called plurality doctrine uh but anyway he lists that as one of the heresies believing in innumerable worlds but so did pope pious ii and you can find this in your copy of denzinger cum secud it’s a magisterial document from he condemned those who believed in other worlds and other men before adam oh there it is on the screen um well before him pope saint zachary called it a uh he called it blasphemous to the extreme oh it’s right there as well so he called it perverse and abominable to believe in other worlds with other men on them and he actually called for a certain priest to be excommunicated if he kept on preaching that and if we go further back to the earlier fathers of the church we’ve got all of them who spoke about this condemning it every single father of the church who spoke about belief in aliens condemned it except origin now origin had good things to say but he was condemned as a heretic so origin uh despite his good teachings he does not get a vote in the consensus fathers on a point in question uh augustine condemned it a saint hippolytus condemned it saint philastrius condemned it saint philastrius i think it was he pointed out that there are uh there’s he said there’s a heresy to believe in multiple worlds because scripture teaches us about one world and i spent 25 minutes in my in my long video against aliens uh on this point because it’s difficult for a lot of people to understand i won’t go into it now for the sake of time but uh even we can even infer the non-existence of aliens from the mere fact that divine revelation does not speak of them i know a lot of people uh dismiss that as an argument from ignorance or from silence one or the other but it’s actually an extremely important argument if you approach it correctly i’ll let you look into that on the last video i put up on my channel if you’re interested but the fathers certainly believed that they realized that if there were multiple worlds that’s something that would have to be in divine revelation. It’s not, therefore, there’s not multiple worlds.
Mark Mallett • 47:05
Then you have St. Thomas Aquinas saying that very thing. It’s not possible, he said, for there to be an earth other than this one. And St. Augustine as well said that there are Epicurus’ dream of innumerable worlds, and he contradicted those that do not suppose this world is eternal and are of the opinion that this is not the only world. So there’s Augustine saying, no, there’s just this world.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 47:32
And the Picurus was an ancient Greek pagan. So this was an ancient Greek pagan thought. And Augustine is rejecting that from the pagans.
Mark Mallett • 47:42
And maybe we’ve got also the Bishop of Lisieux. This is quoted from the Catholic Encyclopedia. He said, God can and could in his omnipotence make another world besides this one or several like or unlike it. Nor will Aristotle or anyone else be able to prove completely the contrary. But of course, there never has been, nor will there ever be more than one inhabited corporeal world. And I added this in my writing, which is you’re reading right now the UFO Delusion Part 2. I found this quote from St. Patios of Mount Athos, because we have many Orthodox believers who watch Countdown of the Kingdom, believe it or not. even Orthodox priests who’ve written me. And this is a saint who many of them believe is very credible. They really loved his writings. He had many things to say during COVID. We won’t get into it, but about COVID, I should say. But this is what he had to say. St. Paceos of Mount Athos, there is no life on other planets. All these phenomena are demonic manifestations, and attempt to mislead people and draw them away from Christ and his church. Well, there’s no gray area in that comment right there.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 49:04
There’s another Orthodox priest who’s been rated as a saint in the Orthodox Church, St. Gabriel of something, and I can’t remember what something he’s of, but he said specifically in the times of the Antichrist, the greatest temptation will be to look to the revelations from so-called extraterrestrials, which will actually be demons in disguise.
Mark Mallett • 49:24
right so we are living in extraordinary times brothers and sisters this confrontation between the woman and the dragon it’s taking many forms for instance john paul ii before he became pope said in 1976 he said we are facing the final confrontation between the church and the anti-church between the gospel versus the anti-gospel deacon uh ken um suddenly forget it forny was there. And he said he also heard John Paul II say Christ versus the Antichrist. So this battle between the woman and the dragon takes many forms. When Pope John Paul II was at Cherry Creek for World Youth Day with the youth in Denver, he referred to this passage in Revelation 12 and said it refers to the culture of life versus the culture of death and those who wish to impose upon others their will. And so this battle takes on many forms, but as you’ve just heard, Revelation 12.1 speaks of this battle between the woman and the dragon that literally takes place in the sky. Oronos is the Greek word. It’s in the sky. And we believe from what we’re hearing Our Lady say, what we’re hearing from the President of the United States, what we’re hearing from Spielberg and others is that there’s going to be a deception coming. And we hope this webcast in part prepares you for part of that. Again, Daniel’s books, you can find them on Amazon. Just type in his name, look for them. The First and Last Deception. And the other one was The Only Man Bears His Image. You can go much deeper in there. Just congratulations, Daniel. Thank you. It’s a gift of grace that you have given the church. We always like to keep this under a minute, under an hour, sorry. Yeah, we like to keep our webcast under a minute, and I think we’ve gone over today. Sorry about that. But why don’t we close by just turning to one other word from, this one comes from Our Lady to Pedro Regis. This was just posted on Countdown to the Kingdom where Our Lady warns, she says, Dear children, wide doors will open in the house of God and enemies will act, causing great confusion and division. The false wants to unite with the true. But in the Lord’s vineyard, there’s no room for those whose soul tears, weeds. God’s truth cannot be altered. Babel will spread, that is confusion, that’s what the word means, and the curse of Sodom will invade the church of my son Jesus. Whatever happens, do not retreat. my thoughts on that and then I’ll get yours and then we’ll close when Our Lady says wide doors will open in the house of God I think this refers to kind of a laxity in our discipline a laxity in the truth and we’ve seen this frankly in the last pontificates recent pontificates where there’s vagueness there’s ambiguity and we need more precision I think, in these times. But nonetheless, I think God is using this to test and refine us, because we’re seeing an element of the church now definitely moving towards schism. They’re failing the test. You can still look at what’s happening in the church and go, I need to pray even harder for my shepherds. Isn’t it interesting, Brother Daniel, that Our Lady has no messages to us, telling us to avoid this Pope or avoid that Pope. Rather, she says, pray for the Pope, meaning that heaven even recognizes who our Popes are. But in the insistency in asking us to pray for them, heaven is telling us there’s confusion. There’s Babel in the church. There’s those who are sowing weeds among the wheat. And I don’t know if you have any final comments on that line, But we’ve got just a couple more minutes left, brother.
Prof. Daniel O’Connor • 53:38
Well, I absolutely agree with everything you said there. We see so much infiltration of garbage into the church. But remember, the magisterium itself, this is constant in Pedro’s messages, stick with the true magisterium. And that doesn’t mean that there’s falsity in the magisterium. It means that the actual magisterium is true. It remains true. It always will be true. You don’t have to worry about deception, about being taught deception from official acts of the magisterium. Stick with your catechism. You will be okay. But it says here the false wants to unite with the true. And I’m sure there’s many valid meanings to that. But of course, I think also about the topic of our webcast here, how this notion that extraterrestrials are now here, it’s constantly being shoved down our throats from a theological lens. The false wants to unite with the true. We are incessantly being told that this is perfectly fine and wonderful and enriching of our faith, when in fact it’s a subtle attack against the faith. Stay away from it. There is no half-truth. There is no uniting of the false and the true. The whole truth is Jesus Christ, and there is no other. So, keep yourself unstained by this deception, certainly. but I want to always end on a positive note because remember, this is not actually the bad news. It might seem that it is, as Mark and I always want our primary message to be, this deception and this chastisement and this persecution and all these seals of revelation opening up. Yes, they are the birth pangs, but they are also signs that the triumph of Christ is imminent. These are still the most exciting times to be alive if you simply stay away from this deception, remain in God’s grace, remain close to the sacraments, pray your rosary. You don’t have to sit there in fear at all. Save some by snatching them out of the fire, as the book of Jude says. Do your best to get as many as possible into that remnant faithful. And aside from that, lay your head in your pillow at night at peace. It’ll be okay in God’s grace.
Mark Mallett • 55:41
Amen. And as Daniel said, pray the rosary. One of the promises Our Lady made to those who pray the rosary is she would keep them from error. It’s probably no coincidence that as we’re seeing this great deception coming, this UFO deception, at the same time Our Lady consistently in the messages on countdown, we hear her saying, pray the rosary, pray the rosary. I’m Mark Mallett, along with my Brother Daniel, it’s been a real privilege to be with you again, and we hope to see you again shortly. We’re praying for you. Please pray for us. God bless you. God bless you.
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